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- Date: Sun, 13 Mar 94 04:30:06 PST
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- Subject: Ham-Policy Digest V94 #127
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- Ham-Policy Digest Sun, 13 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 127
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- Today's Topics:
- Coord. priority for open repeaters
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- Date: Sun, 13 Mar 94 03:44:31 EST
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!wariat.org!mystis!dan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Coord. priority for open repeaters
- To: ham-policy@ucsd.edu
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- keating@nosc.mil (Roger Keating) writes:
-
- > jreese@sugar.NeoSoft.COM (Jim Reese) writes:
- >
- > > By saying you're not welcome, do you mean you've asked to join and been
- > > told "no", or that you've not joined and can't use the system because
- > > you're not a member?
- >
- > I meant that I am not permitted to use the machine because I am not a
- > member of the group which sponsors it.
- >
- > I am a member of several groups which sponsor repeaters which do not
- > require that I be a member to use them. I support with my money and
- > effort, the amateur community which supports open repeaters. We have
- > many visitors to San Diego County, and some are hams. It is often the
- > case that the visitors cannot use the UHF repeaters because they are
- > not open repeaters. They sometimes remark about this, and I
- > sympathize with them. Visitors are always welcome on all the
- > repeaters I use, as long as they obey part 97 and behave in ways which
- > are tolerable socially. Even when they are not tolerable, the
- > repeaters stay open, but the QSO rate falls.
- >
- > My point in saying I was not welcome had little to do with whether
- > there is an opportunity for me to pursue access to the repeater, but
- > everything to do with the fact that until I do, and am successful, I
- > may not use the machines. Even then, with the recent clarification of
- > repeater use rules, the FCC says I can only use the machine if the
- > trustee says I can. What amateur radio has to do is be sure that the
- > folks we provide that authority to by spectrum management agreement,
- > satisfy the interests of the greatest majority of the licensees who
- > occupy the region covered by the equipment.
-
- You have it all wrong. The responsibility for the spectrum management
- people is to manage the spectrum. Not insure the 'interests' of any
- party over another. The only fair way to do that is, first come first
- serve. Protecting the 'greater good' is not an issue.
-
- > The groups which provide
- > such service are the ones I prefer to support with my dues and
- > membership.
-
- Ah! The one SINGLE way to ensure that the best groups survive. I have a
- hit, it is called Capitalism.
-
- > Some people have very good reasons for keeping other hams off of their
- > private equipment. I wish that the ratio of open and closed
- > repeaters were a bit less distorted.
-
- As well you might if your assement of your area is correct. But how
- about 904 or 1.2?
-
-
- {much good commentary deleted to save bandwith}
-
-
- > I just don't like the way amateur radio frequencies are set aside as
- > private frequencies.
-
- Again you have it wrong. They are not 'private frequencies' they are
- coordinated frequencies. Organized to avoid confusion and mayhem, not to
- privatize the 'channel' but to make the most effecent use practial out
- of the limited spectrum we have.
-
- > Don't tell me that there is nothing to not like
- > because there are good reasons for the current spectrum allocation
- > arrangements; I know the reasons and still don't like it. But there
- > are plenty of things I don't like, and mostly I just tolerate it and
- > get on with the day. In fact I think I'll do that now.
- >
- > Roger Keating - KD6EFQ
- > keating@nosc.mil
-
- 73,
-
- Dan N8PKV
-
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- "No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest
- reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is
- as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
- -Thomas Jefferson
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